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CJB
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Lino Lakes
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hootienchyna
Senior Modder
Ronkonkoma
New York 11779
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 Posted - 01/03/2010 : 17:57:34
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Divinar
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San Jose 95111
CA
USA
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Posted - 01/03/2010 : 19:57:41
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thats nice for 25 bucks
That would be nice for $50!
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MustangFreak
Senior Modder
San Antonio
Texas
USA
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Posted - 01/04/2010 : 01:34:00
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| Wow, I sold a faded one, with no stickers, just a painted on windshield and black mudflaps for $40. That one looks sweet! Good find. |
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 04:21:34
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    the culmination of my light modding experience.
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gseric69
Moderator
Red Lion
PA
USA
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Posted - 01/08/2010 : 07:15:05
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| There's actually a lot of space behind the front shield, so it shouldn't be that hard to add something there. The trick may be routing the wires down to the compartment under the seat. |
36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted) |
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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Storm
Journeyman Modder
West Palm Beach
Florida
USA
153 Posts |
Posted - 01/08/2010 : 19:15:11
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| What about taking apart the handle area. Dremel out the "light". If you get some thin like 1.8" lexan that is very flexable you could use some plastic cement to glue the lexan to the plastic shrowd from the back side. After it is good and dry frost the lexan and put a led panel from oznium or something behind it. Just an idea. |
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 17:51:13
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Originally posted by CJB
Also, I wanted to put a keyed ignition in here, but I was worried about the clearance of the handlebar and steering rod junction. BUT, I found a keyset that fits nicely. Didn't even have to modify the original hole for the fake key.
Did that quad originally have the typical PWs plastic key with the plastic "T" attaching it to the 'switch' thing-a-ma-jig?
If so, I would like more info on that key switch you installed. I suspect those would all be keyed alike,? and I want to add keys switches to at least two PWs.
BTW: Headlight looks great! |
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
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Divinar
Moderator
San Jose 95111
CA
USA
2687 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 18:34:25
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Originally posted by CJB
So, I'll be doing gseric69's #7 gearbox mod for this and it got me thinking... I have a brand new pair of 21T GBs I was going to use on the racecar. This quad will be driven mostly on flat lawn, and paved bike paths. Can you think of a reason that would be a bad thing? This will remain at 12v.
I think that at 12v the 21T's might not have enough torque to go on the grass.
But if it causes problems, swapping back to 19T's shouldn't be hard.
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Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Jeep Enforcer (18v, WIP)
Crushmeister! (Silverado), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP), Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock)
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 18:37:27
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Originally posted by CJB
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Originally posted by jparthum
[quote]Did that quad originally have the typical PWs plastic key with the plastic "T" attaching it to the 'switch' thing-a-ma-jig?
If so, I would like more info on that key switch you installed. I suspect those would all be keyed alike,? and I want to add keys switches to at least two PWs.
BTW: Headlight looks great!
Yes, it did.
http://shop.willyselectronics.com/browse.cfm/switches/key-switches/30-10076--key-switch-on/off-dpst-screw-lug,-barrel-key-/4,4804.html
http://shop.willyselectronics.com/browse.cfm/switches/accessories/30-10079--key-switch-protective-cover-/4,10175.html
This isn't where I bought them, but a quick google search yielded these results. Prices look about right. Maybe a little higher, but not much.
Thanks on the headlight. It almost looks like it belongs.
Thanks CJB. Couple of follow up questions if you don't mind  .
This can be installed so that it just breaks the battery circuit, instead of controlling a relay, (can handle the current) correct?
Do you know if this could instead, be used to break the motor connections so the electric braking will effectively be disabled?
And yes, the light and the switch almost look factory! |
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 19:02:16
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Originally posted by CJB
This is only a 4 amp switch. A relay IS required, but they're not hard at all. I'll draw you an easy diagram if you wish. This switch is nice because it's so compact, but it has a low amperage rating for that same reason.
About the second question, I don't see why not, when used in conjuction with a relay or two, but I"ll need Divinar or 12vwiz to come along and figure that diagram out. I don't have the mental capicity for that at the moment.
LOL. If it needs a relay, I may just wait until I make my other wiring decisions (separate brake, variable throttle, etc.) since they may affect which kinds of relays I need. Thanks for the info! Hopefully I can get more of your input when I get further along in my wiring decisions.  |
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/14/2010 : 21:27:45
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Wasn't paying attention to the time and date of the last two posts before my questions, and thought you had resolved the GB prob. Sorry if I hijacked.  ....
...I mean, I figured you would enjoy hitting 1000 posts tonight, so I was helping you out. 
Wish I had some insight to the GB question, but I'm still mainly in the 'needing help' stage of development.  But I can help with computer questions if you ever need.
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sdubb
Senior Modder
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Posted - 01/14/2010 : 21:52:57
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Originally posted by Divinar
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Originally posted by CJB
So, I'll be doing gseric69's #7 gearbox mod for this and it got me thinking... I have a brand new pair of 21T GBs I was going to use on the racecar. This quad will be driven mostly on flat lawn, and paved bike paths. Can you think of a reason that would be a bad thing? This will remain at 12v.
I think that at 12v the 21T's might not have enough torque to go on the grass.
But if it causes problems, swapping back to 19T's shouldn't be hard.
I had the 21 in the Harley Trike with the Extreme Machine rear wheels and It mooooooooved Yes the torque was gone but real fast of course it ate up the gearboxes on the grass. |
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Taz11
Advanced Modder
Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ
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Posted - 01/15/2010 : 05:34:49
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21t's.....I've seen an Eliminator with 21ts run around my slightly sloped grassy yard at last years PW meet. It seemed to work out ok.
Key switch.... I don't know for sure, but judging from those little resister wires on the brake, I think 4Amp may be enough for the brake wire. I can't imagine that it draws that much...and its only for a short time. I'd be tempted to put the switch directly in the brake wire. They are cheap...so if it doesn't work...no biggie. |
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 06:46:18
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Key switch.... I don't know for sure, but judging from those little resister wires on the brake, I think 4Amp may be enough for the brake wire. I can't imagine that it draws that much...and its only for a short time. I'd be tempted to put the switch directly in the brake wire. They are cheap...so if it doesn't work...no biggie.
Thanks Taz. I wanna jump in here before CJB, so he can snatch his thread back from me. I wanted to to use the key switch to to kill electric brakes and power. So I thought I could place it between the brake resistor and motors (or shifter actually) to accomplish that (which would also be a great physical wiring placement on the Extreme Machine, since the key hole is right near the shifter). But it doesn't look like it can handle the current that the motors would need. |
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
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Taz11
Advanced Modder
Bloomsbury (08804)
NJ
3043 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 07:33:05
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Originally posted by CJB
I can see how using it for electric brakes may be ok, but as far as power goes, the entire line from the battery to the motors is high current. Placing a low current switch in-line with this will result in a melted switch.
Putting a relay in-line instead and using the switch to send power to the coil will be pretty much the only solution for the power line. UNLESS, you can find a key switch rated at 30A or so.
Yup. I would use a relay for the power side. If you were just using it to deactivate the braking, I suspect the switch alone would work.
BTW... Yes, the wheel drivers are interchangable from #3 to #7 |
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
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Divinar
Moderator
San Jose 95111
CA
USA
2687 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 18:42:50
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Originally posted by CJB
Does this look about right?
- SL is a set of purple strobes I slipped in the headlight
- SW2 has a gound wire because it's a lighted switch
- Amber LED is lit when key switch is on, red LED is lit when remote kill is engaged
The remote kill wiring diagram in the FAQs says to wire the kill after the throttle, but I don't see how it makes a difference.
Look this over and let me know if I'm not seeing something.
The way it's wired now, when the kill switch is live, the brakes are NOT applied.
If it's wired after the throttle, activating the kill circuit locks it up, too. (This is how I have mine wired)
And I'd run the red LED off the green wire from the remote, in parallel to the relay, not in series with it - it's going to suck some voltage.
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Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Jeep Enforcer (18v, WIP)
Crushmeister! (Silverado), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP), Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock)
PP Gator (Lights),Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock) |
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/15/2010 : 18:43:55
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Originally posted by CJB
Does this look about right?
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- SL is a set of purple strobes I slipped in the headlight
- SW2 has a gound wire because it's a lighted switch
- Amber LED is lit when key switch is on, red LED is lit when remote kill is engaged
The remote kill wiring diagram in the FAQs says to wire the kill after the throttle, but I don't see how it makes a difference.
Look this over and let me know if I'm not seeing something.
Nice diagram.
I got the impression from the FAQ that wiring the kill after the throttle was to preserve the factory electric braking...?
EDIT: I guess I was typing at the same time as divinar. |
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CJB
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jparthum
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Texas
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Posted - 01/15/2010 : 22:04:47
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I'm asking more for my own knowledge than trying to make a suggestion, but; could you use one relay with the key switch and remote kill (may require moving resistor)? Also, will that configuration disable the electric brakes when the key is switched off? |
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CJB
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gseric69
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CJB
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gseric69
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Red Lion
PA
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 15:20:03
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I like the vinyl paper from www.papilio.com
That's what I used for my Sarge stickers.
They have glossy clear vinyl, and flat white vinyl. The flat white doesn't need a top coat, but if you want a glossy finish, you'll have to coat it. The glossy clear does require a top coat or it will smudge with the slightest touch. They sell a laminate spray on their site, but it's aroun $12 a can. I used some fusion gloss clear to top coat the eye stickers I made and it kept them shiney. |
36V Peg Perego Apache - Project: Super Power Police Jeep, 18V Metal Frame Jeep - Project: Sarge
Dragon/Craftsman Pickup Hybrid (WIP), 18V John Deere Off Road 4x4 (Gaucho)
12V Lil Jeep, 18V Turbo Sun Jammer Jeep, 12V Super 6 F150 Blue Thunder,
18V Lightning McQueen & 12V Lightning McQueen w/Duratrax Motors (Sold)
18V Green & Blue Ninja Quads w/19T's, 18V Dora Quad with 21T's
12V Harley Bat Bike w/Duratrax Motors, 12V Pink Harley (Future Trike)
Future Builds: 12V Xtreme Machine, 12V PW Fire Truck, 6V Wild Thing Super 6 & Mach 5
RIP: 12V Super 6 Suzuki Quad w/Seperate Brake pedal (Decommissioned/Parted) |
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2010 : 15:22:03
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With a DPDT relay, sure. If you have one.
LoL you're hell-bent on keying off those brakes, aren't you.
Why not just use a big toggle switch to turn off the autobrake? Hide it under the seat or something.
HAHA... To be honest, I'm not that great at reading wiring diagrams, or at soldering , so the fewer components, the better.
I thought maybe the kill and remote switches could be in series on the same relay. Would they they not play nice together? |
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jparthum
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Texas
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 15:23:40
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Painted today. I think it looks pretty good. I can't wait to put it all together.
Did the chrome trick on the motor things, and used a 'fleck' dusting method I read about on here to provide a 'pixie dust' look.
Man, this looks very nice. And sparkly! Great job! |
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jparthum
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(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 15:33:06
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Originally posted by CJB
Photoshopped up a HLR sticker. ANyone have a specific sticker paper they thought worked very well?
gseric69 makes great ones with markers!
...make me wonder why his cakes turn out like they do. |
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CJB
Senior Modder
Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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Divinar
Moderator
San Jose 95111
CA
USA
2687 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2010 : 17:22:29
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Originally posted by CJB
Painted today. I think it looks pretty good. I can't wait to put it all together.
Did the chrome trick on the motor things, and used a 'fleck' dusting method I read about on here to provide a 'pixie dust' look.
Looks real good to me.
But I gotta laugh a little - most of the time, we're trying to un-pink a barbie Jeep!
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Lil Wrangler (2WD, 12v, Lights), KFX Quad (Remote Kill), Jeep Enforcer (18v, WIP)
Crushmeister! (Silverado), Dora Jeep (Super-6 @ 12v, lights), Limited Edition Jeep (Stock)
Grape Gaucho A151 (24v, scooter controller, WIP), Kawasaki Mojave 250 (Stock)
PP Gator (Lights),Home Depot Loader, Lightning McQueen (Stock) |
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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Tin Man
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blaine
mn
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 19:27:39
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18v Grass 12 Fire Jeep
12v Lil Wrangler
12v Barbie Quad
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
USA
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gseric69
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CJB
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jparthum
Senior Modder
(77627) Nederland
Texas
USA
1766 Posts |
Posted - 01/16/2010 : 21:34:15
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I have some clear sticker paper here, so I downloaded a Disney font and made some switch labels.
This LED turns on upon activation of the remote kill swtich. Can anyone think of a name less morbid in a Disney font than 'Kill' for this?
Sleep, Nap, Snooze, Rest, Stop, Override
I tried the Thesaurus...
"X-out, annihilate, asphyxiate, assassinate, crucify, dispatch, do away with, do in, drown, dump, electrocute, eradicate, erase*, execute, exterminate, extirpate, finish, garrote, get*, guillotine, hang, hit*, immolate, liquidate, lynch, massacre, murder, neutralize, obliterate, off*, poison, polish off, put away, put to death, rub out, sacrifice, slaughter, slay, smother, snuff, strangle, suffocate, waste*, wipe out, zap "
..hard to picture in a Disney font, but they didn't look too kid-friendly  LOL
Like the font idea, you're full of good ideas! |
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CJB
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Lino Lakes
MN
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 21:42:33
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Originally posted by jparthum
annihilate, asphyxiate, assassinate, crucify, dispatch, do away with, do in, drown, dump, electrocute, eradicate, erase*, execute, exterminate, extirpate, finish, garrote, get*, guillotine, hang, hit*, immolate, liquidate, lynch, massacre, murder, neutralize, obliterate, off*, poison, polish off, put away, put to death, rub out, sacrifice, slaughter, slay, smother, snuff, strangle, suffocate, waste*, wipe out, zap "
..hard to picture in a Disney font, but they didn't look too kid-friendly LOL
LoL Yeah, prolly not.
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18v Police Silverado; Polaris 2X ; Polaris 700; Xtreme Machine
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jparthum
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Texas
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Posted - 01/16/2010 : 21:54:28
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Originally posted by CJB
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Originally posted by jparthum
annihilate, asphyxiate, assassinate, crucify, dispatch, do away with, do in, drown, dump, electrocute, eradicate, erase*, execute, exterminate, extirpate, finish, garrote, get*, guillotine, hang, hit*, immolate, liquidate, lynch, massacre, murder, neutralize, obliterate, off*, poison, polish off, put away, put to death, rub out, sacrifice, slaughter, slay, smother, snuff, strangle, suffocate, waste*, wipe out, zap "
..hard to picture in a Disney font, but they didn't look too kid-friendly LOL
LoL Yeah, prolly not.
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HAHAHA!
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Tinkerbell Ninja - Complete (again)
